SB 3.25.28: On hearing this statement of the Lord, Devahūti inquired: What kind of devotional service is worth developing and practicing to help me easily and immediately attain the service of Your lotus feet?
She is feeling she wants to qualify herself even if she is qualified- mood of a devotee is a humble mood- feeling that I must qualify myself- Vidura was Yamaraja himself- it was already demonstarted how dear Krnsa held vidura and how dear Vidura held Krsna- when he left the palace when insulted by Duryodhna - he felt he knew he had to qualify himself-0 he felt contaminated - could not check Dhritarastra and Duryodhana and he felt he had to qualify himself to be before Krsna.,
Sanataana Goswami- dont touch me body is contaminated- Haridas Thakur- i am contaminated i cant enter the temple of Jagannnath- he felt unqualified to take prasad with all the devotees
Humility is a natural trait - not contrived or cosmetic-
SB 3.25.29: The mystic yoga system, as You have explained, aims at the Supreme Personality of Godhead and is meant for completely ending material existence. Please let me know the nature of that yoga system. How many ways are there by which one can understand in truth that sublime yoga?
She isa sking abt BRoader sense of yoga- linking with the Supreme.,
VCT says diffrerent yoga suystems have some target to the Supreme but are not fully sufficient do not fully reach the Lotus Feet of the Lord.
Which form of yoga are you recommending for me where there is no chance for fall down?
Here Devahuti is especially referring to Bhakti Yoga system - this chapter is dedicated to that- she is inviting answers on details of Bhakti Yoga process.
Goal of Buddhism is nirvana - only ending material ecxistence- beyond material existence - ? they have no answer they go only upto negation of existence.
Nirvāṇa does not finish the existence of the soul. - but if you do not have conception of the soul - then you negate your existence- is that possible?
The word nirvāṇātman is very significant in this verse. - She is using this name to address Kapila Deva - which means Of embodiment of Nirvana- You can end Materila existence- but You give spiritual existence.
Jnana, Hatha, - yogas do not end material existence.
Nirvana does not finish existence of the soul - Nirvana means to end material existence - which means to go back Hom BTG
apavarga- can mean b hakti process or merging in Brahmana- no modes of nature acting and no karma acting- its a neutral state - like a twinkling star- how long can you do nothing- you fall down and become a politician- or philanthropher
SB 3.25.30: My dear son, Kapila, after all, I am a woman. It is very difficult for me to understand the Absolute Truth because my intelligence is not very great. But if You will kindly explain it to me, even though I am not very intelligent, I can understand it and thereby feel transcendental happiness.
If properly guided and directed the process of bhakti brings us immediately in the presence of the Supreme Lord
SB 7.15.42: The ten kinds of air acting within the body are compared to the spokes of the chariot's wheels, and the top and bottom of the wheel itself are called religion and irreligion. The living entity in the bodily concept of life is the owner of the chariot. The Vedic mantra praṇava is the bow, the pure living entity himself is the arrow, and the target is the Supreme Being.
Going BTG is not something that happens at tehe nd of this life or it is at a distant place- but it is immd accessed now- in this place in this life by surrender to the SPG
SB 3.25.31: Śrī Maitreya said: After hearing the statement of His mother, Kapila could understand her purpose, and He became compassionate towards her because of being born of her body. He described the Sāńkhya system of philosophy, which is a combination of devotional service and mystic realization, as received by disciplic succession.
Maitreya had just heard Uddhava Gita and then Lord Krishna gave service to Maitreya that Vidura will come now and explain everythign to him as I have explained to you. Krishna left and Maitreya left towards the mountains. Uddhava ws smashed was there- vidura and Uddhava spent 1.5 days talking with Vidura and then directed him to in the direction of Maitreya- So Maitreya and Vidura are having this discussion and this chronologically before Maharaj Parikist hearing SB bec Maharaj Pariksit came after Krishna left the planet.
Maitreya had shared with Vyasadeva what excvhange he had with Vidura and Vyasadeva shared with Sukadeva Goswamia dn Suta Goswami is relating this to the sages ate Naimisaranyaa
She is feeling she wants to qualify herself even if she is qualified- mood of a devotee is a humble mood- feeling that I must qualify myself- Vidura was Yamaraja himself- it was already demonstarted how dear Krnsa held vidura and how dear Vidura held Krsna- when he left the palace when insulted by Duryodhna - he felt he knew he had to qualify himself-0 he felt contaminated - could not check Dhritarastra and Duryodhana and he felt he had to qualify himself to be before Krsna.,
Sanataana Goswami- dont touch me body is contaminated- Haridas Thakur- i am contaminated i cant enter the temple of Jagannnath- he felt unqualified to take prasad with all the devotees
Humility is a natural trait - not contrived or cosmetic-
SB 3.25.29: The mystic yoga system, as You have explained, aims at the Supreme Personality of Godhead and is meant for completely ending material existence. Please let me know the nature of that yoga system. How many ways are there by which one can understand in truth that sublime yoga?
She isa sking abt BRoader sense of yoga- linking with the Supreme.,
VCT says diffrerent yoga suystems have some target to the Supreme but are not fully sufficient do not fully reach the Lotus Feet of the Lord.
Which form of yoga are you recommending for me where there is no chance for fall down?
Here Devahuti is especially referring to Bhakti Yoga system - this chapter is dedicated to that- she is inviting answers on details of Bhakti Yoga process.
Goal of Buddhism is nirvana - only ending material ecxistence- beyond material existence - ? they have no answer they go only upto negation of existence.
Nirvāṇa does not finish the existence of the soul. - but if you do not have conception of the soul - then you negate your existence- is that possible?
The word nirvāṇātman is very significant in this verse. - She is using this name to address Kapila Deva - which means Of embodiment of Nirvana- You can end Materila existence- but You give spiritual existence.
Jnana, Hatha, - yogas do not end material existence.
Nirvana does not finish existence of the soul - Nirvana means to end material existence - which means to go back Hom BTG
apavarga- can mean b hakti process or merging in Brahmana- no modes of nature acting and no karma acting- its a neutral state - like a twinkling star- how long can you do nothing- you fall down and become a politician- or philanthropher
SB 3.25.30: My dear son, Kapila, after all, I am a woman. It is very difficult for me to understand the Absolute Truth because my intelligence is not very great. But if You will kindly explain it to me, even though I am not very intelligent, I can understand it and thereby feel transcendental happiness.
If properly guided and directed the process of bhakti brings us immediately in the presence of the Supreme Lord
SB 7.15.42: The ten kinds of air acting within the body are compared to the spokes of the chariot's wheels, and the top and bottom of the wheel itself are called religion and irreligion. The living entity in the bodily concept of life is the owner of the chariot. The Vedic mantra praṇava is the bow, the pure living entity himself is the arrow, and the target is the Supreme Being.
Going BTG is not something that happens at tehe nd of this life or it is at a distant place- but it is immd accessed now- in this place in this life by surrender to the SPG
SB 3.25.31: Śrī Maitreya said: After hearing the statement of His mother, Kapila could understand her purpose, and He became compassionate towards her because of being born of her body. He described the Sāńkhya system of philosophy, which is a combination of devotional service and mystic realization, as received by disciplic succession.
Maitreya had just heard Uddhava Gita and then Lord Krishna gave service to Maitreya that Vidura will come now and explain everythign to him as I have explained to you. Krishna left and Maitreya left towards the mountains. Uddhava ws smashed was there- vidura and Uddhava spent 1.5 days talking with Vidura and then directed him to in the direction of Maitreya- So Maitreya and Vidura are having this discussion and this chronologically before Maharaj Parikist hearing SB bec Maharaj Pariksit came after Krishna left the planet.
Maitreya had shared with Vyasadeva what excvhange he had with Vidura and Vyasadeva shared with Sukadeva Goswamia dn Suta Goswami is relating this to the sages ate Naimisaranyaa
Devahuti wants to end material existence and engage in devotional service. Kapila Dev becomes compassionate -and explains sankhya - combination of devotional service and mystic realization.
Its sat Yuga - the process of achioeveing spiirirtual perfection is meditation and thus the dimension of meditation - further chapters on meditation - but thats not the essence the essence is devotional service - what is the sours of everything- it is the aboslute truth- Kapila Dev says in next chapters that now I have described this process now I wil explain different components of Abpslute truth - they all work together to bring about existence and carry us to the source- which is the devotional service
Thus analytical component+ mystic component+devotional component- it is complete only with devotional component- also you have to get it from the right source- from sadhu sanga - otherwise you will have misconception- or call it yoga and do something else.
SP is explicit- cut the know of material existence through devotional service under teh guidance of sadhu sanga
We are so fortunate- made so easy- somethign to help us in opening and receiving that gift is SB along with chanting- a dedicated great effort was done by SP was Xlation of SB- so we must cultivate that Gift
Genuine Sincere devotees- how to identify by behavior?
There are scriptural evidences- What sincere means- Suhotra Swami gave description - it comes from a latin word- that has to do with marble that doesn't have any lines on it
Deities carved from marble which has nothing but one thing- when one is sincere there ios nothign but one thing- atleast in cultivate stage that is the desire- atleats there is consistent cultivation practice, following, ardent- strong, intense - tivra- determination sustained over time- to attain bhakti - that is eternal how to measure-? sincere is one who continues to strive - that is the main component- same as eligibility of candidate for Devotional service- one who is sincere- evidence is striving in light of what the teaching says- one may not be pure but can become pure by the agency of sincerity- you can go down with it:
one who is regulated- mode of goodness systems are exhibited by them sincerely- careful in one's dealings- speaking the truth palatably - mode of goodness- symptoms that are minus the lower modes of nature and progressively developing simply goodness minus the modes of nature- others whom I am trying to serve should be pleased - consistent-
Sankhya leads to Bhakti?
Some say they are different- Krishna say not different- one is emphasizing finding the root of existence teh other is watering the root of existence.Kapila Dev is teaching - one can analyze over her and over her the root but actually it is one thing.
Go back and cultivate same as what Kapila Dev is saying - you have to cultivate - Hearing? and then cultivate discuss with each other - share your realization about your realization while cultivation
Let their(sadhus) happiness and satisfaction be my objective-
Distrubed by pressures at work:
Peter Burwash slide is - mundane eg of tennis player- somebody said Pressure is the Honor to somebody who is successful- suppose you were a slouch then no pressure- for devotee here comes the pressure - workplace/service/some situation- part of it is what is inside- the internal cultivation part- Krsna you are my strength- ability in Man let me qualify myself to receive strength from you- e.g full employee of some multinational- there was a problem- not clear what solution is- then devotee prayed very sincerely - please help me pray for that reason - that I am Your devotee and it gives Krishna some points because it shows His devotee as powerful- then things clicked some expert got in touch and then some solution came - devotee went down that path and then problem fixed - got accolades, bonus etc and internally he was saying :All glories to Krishna"
The well spring of feeling support is teh Krishna bhakti in Your heart- the cultivation is - how do I keep the consciousness of doing thsifor Krishna- therein lies the answer to your question- also KC lies best in hearing the association of the sadhus- but the application part is cultivation-- how to apply Ks in workplace?
It is matter of realization rathering than A_Z atleast from internal during the day- check out of Karta aham iti manyatae and check in into How do I do this for KRishna in the workplace and that was it and after a few months they came with a report- the supervisor at work went through some realization - he said before it used to take the same time as everyone else- but now you finish before e everything else and you have all problems sorted out before i come to you- you do not backbite- he said the answer was Krishna. Some time passed and it continued to grow- their mood of working for Krishna continued to grow and consciousness continued to grow- supervisor had a calamity- went to him- you are spiritual- help me and it led them to coming to the temple and meeting the devotees and their Spiritual master-0 changed th attitude of the supervisor to respect and shelter- they are feeling protected because of working in that mood- for Krishna- take it offline and in other circumstances - cultivate doing for Krishna and carry that into the workplace borrow strength from that and apply where there is weakness, consciousness has to change activity does not have to change unless it is forbidden activity.
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